Retro/Over bolting

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Retro/Over bolting

Post by MCpl » Mon Nov 08, 2004 10:53 am

What's the deal of adding more bolts while retro bolting established safe routes?

Isn't that taking away from the spirit of what the establisher wanted and maybe also removing the "adventure" of climbing??

This should be one for the "Ethics Police". I mean, "So what if someone has to take a 30ft whipper at the top of the Pet Wall."
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Post by GELATIN MAN » Mon Nov 08, 2004 12:03 pm

:wink:

Sure beats payin for the same ride at the PNE .
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Post by t-bone » Wed Nov 17, 2004 10:07 pm

Why would you need to add more bolts on "Safe" routes?

Unless you have express written permission from the first ascentionist, NEVER add bolts to existing routes. Anchors are a little greater though....
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Post by t-bone » Wed Nov 17, 2004 10:07 pm

t-bone wrote:Why would you need to add more bolts on "Safe" routes?

Unless you have express written permission from the first ascentionist, NEVER add bolts to existing routes. Anchors are a little greyer though....
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Post by MCpl » Fri Nov 19, 2004 9:41 am

Must be an echo in here. :)
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Post by Pete L. » Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:04 am

Must be an echo in hear.
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Post by Pete L. » Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:04 am

Can anyone here that?
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Post by Pete L. » Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:07 am

Seriously,
I see no reason to retro-bolt safe routes, unless it's to replace old or bad bolts.
In saying that, I was pretty happy to clip the newly added bolt on "Animal."
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Post by Pete L. » Fri Nov 19, 2004 9:21 pm

Sorry, me again.
The question is would "Animal" have been more rewarding if the last bolt wasn't there?
Some of my most memorable routes have been the ones with big air potential. "Animal" is just another clip-up now.
I guess I could skip the last bolt but is it the same?
Imput anyone...

I'm bored and my wife has a headache.
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Post by t-bone » Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:22 pm

I know let's re-bolt Merci Me! That route is too scary for me....MCPl, can you lead it for me?
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Post by MCpl » Sat Nov 20, 2004 3:22 pm

How about Pleasent Pheasant? I'm pretty sure they added a bolt at the top.
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Post by sled neck » Sat Nov 20, 2004 6:35 pm

Pleasant Pheasant was originally put up on gear (try it!!) and had one bolt, it was later retro-bolted by the first ascensionists.
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