The Little Smoke Bluffs
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Dru wrote:Yes, they were fully scrubbed around 2003, although you'd never know it now because they grew over again in around 10 minutes.gnarnaphobe wrote: I dont know If they've ever been cleaned since they were first ascent in '83..
Are you referring to the cracks right of the roof being scrubbed in '03? If so, WOW. But I find it hard to believe that they would moss over that much faster than the roof cracks, given the fact that the roof area was way more shaded(before we pruned)
Hopefully with the pruning that has already take place along with a bit more will let enough light in the keep the moisture down and reduce the moss over rate... With the help of a bit of traffic
Also, In an attempt to slow the moss growth rate I'm gonna clean 5.0-5.6 low angle rock at the right side of the bluff. Which could also be prime candidates for F.A.'s by little children.
P.s. this thread belongs in the new routes and trail info thread.. mad bad, If possible It should be relocated
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Re: The Little Smoke Bluffs
Yes. They were fully clean. The rock below the roof stays dry and hence cleaner. The slabby stuff to the right of the roof is damp more often and regrows fast, like the stuff around Digital Dexterity (i.e. clean one year, inches thick moss the next)gnarnaphobe wrote:Dru wrote:Yes, they were fully scrubbed around 2003, although you'd never know it now because they grew over again in around 10 minutes.gnarnaphobe wrote: I dont know If they've ever been cleaned since they were first ascent in '83..
Are you referring to the cracks right of the roof being scrubbed in '03? If so, WOW.
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Re: The Little Smoke Bluffs
Lest we forget, the reason why all of Octopuses Garden isn't a perpetually wet moss carpet was because a few climbers had the good sense to removed the trees from its base. The result was the creation of one of the best and most popular crags in the bluffs. IMO this crag is worthy of a similar amount of attention. If it only took a few years for the crag to moss up again it was only because the job wasn't fully done the last time around. Just don't make the same mistake twice. Time to put down the wire brush and pick up the chain saw.gnarnaphobe wrote:I see
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And if the chainsaw doesn't work, napalm? Agent Orange?
Not every cliff needs to stay clean. If it doesn't get the traffic to keep it clean it's better off growing moss.
Not every cliff needs to stay clean. If it doesn't get the traffic to keep it clean it's better off growing moss.
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Up thread Jeremy posted he was behind in cleaning an area they are calling the "Kids Zone". I was up there the other day walking around. This will be a great addition for climbing families. Any idea if Jeremy is still working on this or if it's been passed on to someone else? I heard that Jeremy is leaving town for a job. Looks like there's still quite a bit of work to be done.
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Also on my walk around the park I saw the work on re-cleaning Respiration Rock. Looks like a nice moderate roof crack. Well done.
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Re: The Little Smoke Bluffs
Saw this crag for the first time near Octopus Garden in the Shade. Anybody know more about?
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That is Skunk Hollow. I think the info is in the book at Climb On, but I believe there is one 10c, and the rest are 11s and 12s?
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Yea skunk hollow looks awesome, been there a few times haven't climbed anything yet.
On a sidenot I saw a bear yester mid day just outside the little smoke bluff park on hospital hill. They later in the evenng saw him or her up by octopus'.Just a reminder to everyone that they're starting to wake up for the season.
On a sidenot I saw a bear yester mid day just outside the little smoke bluff park on hospital hill. They later in the evenng saw him or her up by octopus'.Just a reminder to everyone that they're starting to wake up for the season.
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Lots of action in the bluffs lately! Lots of smiling faces enjoying the sunshine as well!
The upper tier of lumberland, Zephyr Wall, is now complete, thanks to Hevy, Erica and friends. The climbing there is quite interesting, most of the routes start by pulling through stellar roof moves then ease from there. I believe a topo will be out shortly.
I have heard great reviews about Cabin Boys Office, lots of good climbing in a cool location.
Also I've caught wind that a few routes at crag X have had a spring cleaning. Thank you anonymous do-gooder.
In Bouldering news, three new problem were recently clean by the picnic tables located by clean starts. Does anyone know anything about them? I'll snap a picture today! Quality climbing; IMO.
Earlier this week a bus load of keen teenagers flowed through the park tiding up the trails. Thanks alot to every one who was involved in that!
Respiration Rock is nearly finished its "Renewal Process" and will host 15 routes in total, ranging from 5.3-5.13.
The upper tier of lumberland, Zephyr Wall, is now complete, thanks to Hevy, Erica and friends. The climbing there is quite interesting, most of the routes start by pulling through stellar roof moves then ease from there. I believe a topo will be out shortly.
I have heard great reviews about Cabin Boys Office, lots of good climbing in a cool location.
Also I've caught wind that a few routes at crag X have had a spring cleaning. Thank you anonymous do-gooder.
In Bouldering news, three new problem were recently clean by the picnic tables located by clean starts. Does anyone know anything about them? I'll snap a picture today! Quality climbing; IMO.
Earlier this week a bus load of keen teenagers flowed through the park tiding up the trails. Thanks alot to every one who was involved in that!
Respiration Rock is nearly finished its "Renewal Process" and will host 15 routes in total, ranging from 5.3-5.13.
Imaging how much funner this could be with booze and explosives
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Re: The Little Smoke Bluffs
Nice Luke, Respiration Rock looks sparkling clean.
I heard those were Trek students working on the trails -- thanks guys and gals for volunteering. It's a great example that climbing resources we use don't come for free, we rely on people giving back to the community. It should make every climber pause and think what they can do and contribute. Start by joining the Squamish Access Society and Climbers Access Society of BC. And then get involved.
I'm keen to check out Lumberland. That was a huge project and many hours Hevy and his friends put in, good job. Hevy, post that topo as soon as you can.
If anybody has details on the re-cleaned routes on Crag X, post them up.
I heard those were Trek students working on the trails -- thanks guys and gals for volunteering. It's a great example that climbing resources we use don't come for free, we rely on people giving back to the community. It should make every climber pause and think what they can do and contribute. Start by joining the Squamish Access Society and Climbers Access Society of BC. And then get involved.
I'm keen to check out Lumberland. That was a huge project and many hours Hevy and his friends put in, good job. Hevy, post that topo as soon as you can.
If anybody has details on the re-cleaned routes on Crag X, post them up.
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Re: The Little Smoke Bluffs
The boulder problems at the kids area where put up a couple of months ago ,by a young french climber and myself . There are 4 problems Vo/v2 with room for a few more harder ones .Topos for the Lumberland Crags will be up shortly .
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