New Route on the Shoot To Kill Wall.

[meingh]

All this talk about loose rock. If you would just stick to the bolt line it wouldn't be a problem. Hint, if your standing on moss you're off route.

[dakine]

Dude, if I was any closer to the bolt line Id be standing on the bolts,
the jug I pulled off was just past the first crux by the big block

[meingh]

are you talking about just up and off to the right ?? Some parts of it might have been a bit dirty ???

[5.4 Slayer]

DUDE! - C/D!!!

[5.4 Slayer]

That block came from the left. It crashed down, hit the slabby approach and rocketed towards Greg, barely missing him.

[dakine]

OK the first rock I pulled off was up and slightly right close to the dirty area (behind the anchors). The second piece came off lower toward the left right above the dead tree that isn't cut off. I realize that this are is off route but if you fall at the first crux you will end up close to the loose rock.

[dakine]

DUDE! - C/D!!!

WHAT??? no way is it 10 C/D it's at least 11b!

[meingh]

I went up the route today. Took a hammer and tools. Nothing on the bolt line is loose. I admit I found / removed a couple small suspect rocks but that's it.

I can say with full confidence nothing else "ON-ROUTE" is loose. You go of route it's all on you.

I also added a new first bolt as per some of your requests. The route is now 13 bolts long plus anchors.

I have also added a belay / gear bolt at the base of the climb because I thought it might help Have fun.

[5.4 Slayer]

Nice!

[dakine]

Thanks man! it's one of my fav routes

[mr_staggerlee]

Climbed HTTDZ yesterday.

solid, pretty clean, long, varied, and loads of fun.

thanks for the work!

G.

[meingh]

glad you liked it

[Peter]

Me and my partner figured 11b.

[meingh]

Oh, now here's a surprise. Mr. Winter down grading routes

Gary

[dakine]

I agree tho and I am weak and fat