Good luck with it all, and please do your best to make sure you do not cause contempt.
I find it surprising that these comments come up in a community that is so friendly and welcoming to new comers and beginner climbers. However everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
Joe and Vrcg and Climb and Conquer do a lot for the climbing community in Vancouver. There has been every opportunity for people to raise these concerns (joe's personal phone number is even on webpage) however the only hint of it has been from here.
In response to the few negative responses here and their VERY valid concerns about mess and trail damage we have gone to lengths to minimize impact. We will be providing garbage bags to participants and stressing with each of them the importance of removing their rubbish and we will also be doing a run through the forest after the comp to clean up anything that was missed. We have also got SAS coming to the event so that they can help police this and raise awareness of this issue to the newer climbers.
As for parking, this was always going to be a problem, however we are again going to lengths to limit its impact. We are making the adventure centre our main parking area and suggesting that people car pool from there to the chief parking lot. We are even running a free shuttle service from the adventure centre to the chief parking lot. To entice people to use it we are offering discounts on food so are essentially paying people to use it...
We have also limited the problems (to 70) that are in the comp to keep impact down and so that there will be other problems in the forest for people who dont want to be involved. We are also NOT giving priority to people in the comp, who ever wants to climb the problem when the pads are there can.
I hope that people understand that this diatribe is not meant to dig at anyone, it is simply to explain in detail the steps we are taking. Yes, we understand that it is not perfect and we welcome any extra advice and discussion.
As a few parting comments, did people have the same problem with squamish mountain festival? or with the new Gondola?
I wasn't around for the Roctrip, hell I didn't even climb back then, let alone know that Squamish was a world class destination. But I feel it's unfair to compare that event to this one, as this is put on by climbers, for climbers, and not organized by the HR/PR department at Petzl who chances are didn't even climb.
Think of all the other events that happen in or around Squamish that can be a pain in the a$%.... Music festivals, bike races. It's one day. I'm all for letting the climbers have their fun. So maybe the parking lot will be a bit more crowded than it usually is on a weekend.
That being said, I do agree in hoping that all participants will be respectful of the park, leave no trace, and be good ambassadors of our sport. We'll see how everything looks after Sunday, and who knows - maybe they'll surprise everyone.
To answer your question Toby, no I do not have kids, although I do remember pulling that sh*t on my parents once upon a time. I don't know how it went down, but maybe the first people who were asked for approval ok'd the event without consulting their peers? Joe is a stand up guy, and I'd give him the benefit of the doubt that he wouldn't go behind peoples backs just to make this happen.
@Catachresis - I don't know you, or anything about you, but you seem to have to add your 2 cents just to disparage this event. Did you happen to do any research before hitting the submit button? http://vrcg.ca/climb-and-conquer/ - Don't think that they are just using "Charity for Children" as an excuse to hold a competition. As far as the name goes, what would you prefer they call it? Squamish Charity Competition? Lacks the drive, don't you think?
Maybe you think the motivation is 'common and banal' but what would be better? If the motivation was a cash prize, would you still be speaking against it? Or would you have already registered?
Drivers & Carpooling:
To reward drivers to generously carpool. If you pack a full car (with passengers AND gear) and take a selfie of it. Show it to Registration Team during registration. You get 1 free burger (for the driver)
Passengers looking for rides:
Please post on the event spreadsheet, the facebook page https://www.facebook.com/events/6642171 ... y&source=1, this forum and the many facebook carpooling groups.
PARKING AT STAWAMUS CHIEF PARKING IS SEVERELY LIMITED AND PLEASE READ this instruction!!!
Park at the gravel parking at Squamish Adventure Center 38551 Loggers Lane, Squamish. Carpool to event (5min. drive).
1. Load down all your gear at the comp./meeting location grassfield (see photo above).
2. Drive to Squamish Adventure Center (see photo below) to park your cars.
3. 2 OPTIONS:
Option 1: Carpool with other participants and pack as many people in the cars as possible.
Option 2: RECOMMENDED: Rampage Shuttle (by donation)
9am-10am shuttling from Squamish Adventure Center to Chief (comp. location)
5pm-7pm shuttling from Chief (comp. location) to Squamish Adventure Center
*Rampage Drivers Arianna, Hanna and Paul will have signs with them so you can look for them easily.
Please refrain from parking at the Stawamus Chief parking as it’s usually fully occupied by hikers already. Same applies to the Malamute parking lot (right across from the Chief parking) and Apron parking lot (the next parking lot north of Chief parking on Hwy 99).
A team from Highland Sport and Spine Physiotherapy will be on site to provide all their professional physio knowledge and tips to maximize your sending power and provide first-aid.
Bring on your A-game and by the way, we also have an all-you-can-eat BBQ option too finally all you can eat in Squamish!!!
I can second this. Last climber I'd expect to pull some sleazy nonsense to realize his dream.NateDoggOG wrote: Joe is a stand up guy, and I'd give him the benefit of the doubt that he wouldn't go behind peoples backs just to make this happen.
Well I do. I am not especially into slandering people - and anyway as a simple Squamish guy I tend to assume everyone from the big city is a defamation lawyer - but I believe the analogy I gave is appropriate. Hopefully BC Parks will be less easily hussled, and there will be wider consultation, if this thing is proposed again for next year.NateDoggOG wrote:To answer your question Toby, no I do not have kids, although I do remember pulling that sh*t on my parents once upon a time. I don't know how it went down ....
You do realize Joe said he got the go-ahead from BC Parks....I doubt there was any 'hussling' going on.tobyfk wrote:Well I do. I am not especially into slandering people - and anyway as a simple Squamish guy I tend to assume everyone from the big city is a defamation lawyer - but I believe the analogy I gave is appropriate. Hopefully BC Parks will be less easily hussled, and there will be wider consultation, if this thing is proposed again for next year.NateDoggOG wrote:To answer your question Toby, no I do not have kids, although I do remember pulling that sh*t on my parents once upon a time. I don't know how it went down ....
Perhaps in the future, depending on the outcome here, organizers submit an event plan to the appropriate governing body (parks, SAS) where they outline the details. If there are so many people against it, they should be able to voice their concerns. Even have a meeting at the Brewpub so everyone can have a say if necessary.
- Canada West Mountain School $250 coupon
- Mad Rock shoe coupon
*NO SHARING for all you can eat. Violaters will be banned from the comp. and with name/photo posted on the wall of shame online until Rampage 2015. You have from 9am - 6pm to showcase your stomach crankage! All-you-can-eat burger is $15.
Special prizes will be given to people who know what's the boulder in the Rampage poster taken by genius Joshua Roth, professional photographer. http://joshrothphoto.com/
Also, print and sign your waiver now to speed up your sign in at the event day!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2lv25 ... sp=sharing
- all you can eat BBQ $15
- Tank tops or t-shirts $20
HOT DOGS $4
ALL YOU CAN EAT $15 (does not include beverages)
POP, WATER, JUICE $2
ENERGY DRINKS $3
TANK TOPS & T-SHIRTS $20
ALL PROCEEDS GOING TO CLIMB AND CONQUER!
CNC is a registered charity founded by a few Vancouver climbers back in 2011, while busy with their day full-time jobs and obviously climbing, figured rock climbing is an excellent way to empower youth physically and mentally and began doing a bunch of work to provide access to those who couldn't afford it. A small, humble project for a good cause. Entirely volunteer run. The office is a laptop.
More project stories...
If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact Joe 7789997104 gettothechopper at vrcg.ca hope to see you all wonderful faces in this fun community event!
Hagakure in Index, WA was suggested on Facebook. Looks right to me: http://vimeo.com/78307337joewtc wrote: Special prizes will be given to people who know what's the boulder in the Rampage poster
I guess that nice flat landing is a better sell to the gym folk in Van than the heinous Squamish reality.
A video by EpicTV & Photos will follow shortly.
*we only count top 3 in each cat. in this comp.
1st Miles Adamson**
2nd Dirk Ullie
3rd David Echeveri
The egg V11
No troublems V10
Worm world cave low V10
Rookie low V9
Worm world cave V9
1st Corey Kelly
2nd Matthew Lamb
3rd Hosin Jo
1st Yannick Heller
2nd Shawn Floris
3rd Sean Stephenson
1st Allan Douglas
2nd Charlie Fagan
1st Natasha Segree Hacker
2nd Ranata Vantuchova
3rd Lauren Watson
1st Yvonne Wong & Vladi Kratochvilova (tie)
2nd Erika Wynn
3rd Jennifer Wiebracht
This event won't be possible without 2 elements:
1. Our dear Friends, Partners and Sponsors:
These guys are committed to supporting our charity Climb and Conquer and increasing the fun factors with event support and prizes.
Squamish Access Society
Blicard Industries Inc.
Blue Ice Adventure Equipment
Canada West Mountain School
Climb Base 5 Climbing Gym
Highland Sport and Spine Physiotherapy
Hive Bouldering Gym
Joshua Roth photography
Richmond Oval Climbing Wall
Solid Rock Climbers for Christ
2. Our team of wonderful Volunteers:
This event is entirely run by volunteers with regular day jobs, sharing the same vision: love climbing and commit to use climbing to make this world a better place. They woke up at 6am, finished cleaning up, patrolling the forest at 9pm. Every single one of them is crucial to the successful operation of this comp, managing millions tasks in multiple stations and supporting the comp. participants.
Roberto Lazzari Junior
Sarah Campbell and Jenna
We are v. happy to see everyone having so much fun. Please don't hesitate to drop a few lines to say hi and tell us what we did well and what we can do better. Thank you!
Danny, Joe & Luke, Event Organizers
More info about the charity this comp. supports:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set ... 545&type=1
Some media coverage from Gripped and Chief
http://gripped.com/news/rampage-boulder ... -squamish/
http://www.squamishchief.com/community/ ... -1.1331310
Thanks everyone for dropping by to say hi!
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