City of Squamish Report

Everything and anything to do with climbing in Squamish.
Post Reply
Aaron
Junior Member
Junior Member
Posts: 79
Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2005 5:33 pm
Location: Castlegar. Squamish in 2010

Post by Aaron » Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:16 pm

It all sounds great! I for one would be all for a parking fee if it meant that: 1. The lot got paved 2. They installed proper public washroom 3. As for the need for security, the piles of broken glass in the parking lot speaks to that necessity.
Now for all the haters who would be against this idea. Consider that the Smoke Bluffs parking lot are used primarily by non Squamish residence. Why would any community spend that kind of money to cater to a user group from out of town?
WTF?

Khoi
Junior Member
Junior Member
Posts: 50
Joined: Sun Jul 06, 2008 12:11 am
Location: Vancouver, BC

Post by Khoi » Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:32 am

Aaron wrote:It all sounds great! I for one would be all for a parking fee if it meant that: 1. The lot got paved 2. They installed proper public washroom 3. As for the need for security, the piles of broken glass in the parking lot speaks to that necessity.
Sounds good to me, so long as the parking fee is kept reasonable.
Aaron wrote:Now for all the haters who would be against this idea. Consider that the Smoke Bluffs parking lot are used primarily by non Squamish residence. Why would any community spend that kind of money to cater to a user group from out of town?
The first answer that came to my mind is for the money said group from out of town spends there. In other words, tourism.
~Khoi

raingod
Casual Observer
Casual Observer
Posts: 17
Joined: Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:00 pm
Location: North Van

Post by raingod » Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:25 pm

I drive up from Vancouver on a regular basis. I spend money in Squamish, I dislike parking fees.

I could care less if the lot was paved.
I don't have a problem with outhouses and portapottys.
Don't leave anything in your car, short of having a full time security guard watching from when the first car arrives till the last car leaves thats the only security solution that works.

Ron

Dru
Senior Member
Senior Member
Posts: 396
Joined: Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:00 pm
Location: Chillidog

Post by Dru » Mon Feb 01, 2010 5:13 pm

Isn't the point of having a free parking lot (and why it was created in the first place) so that climbers park there rather than in the subdivision, thus not annoying the residents?

At least that's the excuse they gave us when they moved the lot from its old location near Neat & Clean in the early 90s.

If they make the lot a pay lot now there will be more cheap types parking in random places and walking in thus annoying the locals.

Aaron
Junior Member
Junior Member
Posts: 79
Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2005 5:33 pm
Location: Castlegar. Squamish in 2010

Post by Aaron » Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:57 pm

raingod wrote: Don't leave anything in your car, short of having a full time security guard watching from when the first car arrives till the last car leaves thats the only security solution that works.

Ron
No, random security guard checks would work just fine. Not a fool proof plan, but it's enough of a deterrent to persuade most would be thieves.
If they make the lot a pay lot now there will be more cheap types parking in random places and walking in thus annoying the locals
Yes! and the toe truck companies will love it. Think of all the money the climbing community will be leaving in Squamish then. As for the 90's, give me a break. Am I the only one who's noticed a few changes in Squamish since the early 90's
WTF?

smallman
Senior Member
Senior Member
Posts: 267
Joined: Sun Jun 22, 2008 6:45 pm

Post by smallman » Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:17 am

This parking fee idea has just worked brilliantly at Murrin. :roll: When has the ticket kiosk there ever worked with all the vancouver crackheads breaking into it all the time. The same would occur in 5 minutes in the Smoke bLUFFS PARKING lot. The lot they should be charging for is the Chief Hikers parking lot. Make it cell phone payable or credit card and start towing all the hikers taking up all the camping parking spots. Besides there is a huge alternative free lot across from the adventure centre. The extra walk may help with your climbing and deter traffic to other less used areas.

raingod
Casual Observer
Casual Observer
Posts: 17
Joined: Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:00 pm
Location: North Van

Post by raingod » Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:26 pm

Aaron wrote:
No, random security guard checks would work just fine. Not a fool proof plan, but it's enough of a deterrent to persuade most would be thieves.
They don't work any where else, I don't see why they would work in Squamish. A random guard is no more a deterrent than the idea that a random climber might show up and catch them in the act.
Ron

J Mace
Senior Member
Senior Member
Posts: 326
Joined: Thu May 25, 2006 1:17 pm
Location: Italy

Post by J Mace » Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:28 pm

No, random security guard checks would work just fine. Not a fool proof plan, but it's enough of a deterrent to persuade most would be thieves.
Dont kid yourself, check out any parking garage in Vancouver.

I caught a thief last year and had him arrested, I was climbing at crag X and he saw me and I saw him and he continued to break into cars while I climbed. I just couldnt tell what he was doing, was he looking to see if it was his buddies car or..

When he ran off towrds the bush I untied and gave chase, I lost him in the Mcdonalds parking lot but managed to call police who corralled him, he broke into 4 cars in 20 minutes even smashing the big panel glass on a minivan

Point is I am not paying for a random security gaurd to patroll a parking lot surrounded by bush, these guys are gonna break into vehicles no matter what. So just leave the gack at home, leave the lot unpaved and take the meters somewhere else.

Dru
Senior Member
Senior Member
Posts: 396
Joined: Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:00 pm
Location: Chillidog

Post by Dru » Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:47 pm

J Mace wrote: So just leave the gack at home, leave the lot unpaved and take the meters somewhere else.
Leaving your stuff at home is fine if you're day tripping from the city but less so if you're roadtripping. No surprise that thieves know this too and often target out of province vehicles.

J Mace
Senior Member
Senior Member
Posts: 326
Joined: Thu May 25, 2006 1:17 pm
Location: Italy

Post by J Mace » Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:58 pm

There are lockers around at hostels or campgrounds for road trippers

rolfr
Junior Member
Junior Member
Posts: 77
Joined: Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:55 am
Location: North Van

Post by rolfr » Tue Feb 02, 2010 6:08 pm

Once upon a time the Canadian Government had a vast climbing area in the middle of nowhere. A climber said, "Someone needs to protect this cliff."

So the government created a climber watchman position and hired a person (bilingual, naturally) for the job.

Then the Government said, "How can the watchman do his job without instruction?" So they created a Planning Department and hired two people; one person to write the job description and one person to do time studies.


Then the Government said, "How will we know the climber watchman is performing the tasks correctly?" So they created a Quality Control department and hired two people; one to do the studies and one to write the reports.


Then the Government said, "How are these people going to get paid?" So they created the following positions: a Time Keeper and a Payroll Officer; then hired two more people to assist.


Then the Government said, "Who will be accountable for all of these people?" So they created an Administrative Section and hired three people: an Administrative Officer, an Assistant Administrative Officer and a Legal Secretary.


Then the Government said, "We have had this organization in operation for only one year and we are $18,000 over budget; we must cutback our overall costs." 


So they laid off the climber and closed the climbing area.

bradley3297
Senior Member
Senior Member
Posts: 233
Joined: Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:51 am
Location: squamish

Post by bradley3297 » Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:34 pm

Love that story. :lol:
Bradley

davis
I'm New Here
I'm New Here
Posts: 5
Joined: Tue May 12, 2009 6:41 pm

Post by davis » Sun Feb 21, 2010 8:13 pm

How much did the federal government collect in income taxes from the whole racket? I hope their applications for employment insurance benefits were handled in a timely mannor.

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 21 guests