5.10d in 1967?

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Post by Brendan » Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:08 pm

lolz. i meant one finger one arm...

anyways, big friggin deal if i can do it. millions of people can. and i can't even climb .13+ :oops: :oops:

so maybe you're right about the monk[ey]s. alls i know is that i can't wait for squamish to dry up so i can hit up some BIG stuff 8)

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Post by Brendan » Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:11 pm

btw, that black guy's a BALLER!!!! :P

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Post by Anders Ourom » Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:03 pm

The upper pitch of the left side of Yosemite Pinnacle, which I've done, is an offwidth/squeeze chimney in the mid 5.10 range. It was done free in 1965, led by Hamish Mutch. It's hard to grade squeeze chimneys and offwidths, but it's very doubtful it's easier than 5.10.

Another 'route' from that period that may be 5.10 is the direct variation on the third/fourth pitch of Slab Alley. Just above the three-bolt ladder, at the ledge, you move left and mantle into the bottom of the solution groove. I'm not sure when it was done.

I've also heard the stories about Les MacDonald doing some sort of free climbing on the second/third pitch of the Grand Wall bolt ladder, but never thought to ask Les about it. Maybe I will - it would probably be hard to identify now what he climbed (if anything, apart from a few moves), but anything in that area would be good 5.10 or harder.

As Steve suggests, we climbers can be a bit parochial about priority, and other things. The first 5.10s, by modern gradings, were probably in the Elbe region of Germany, before World War I. Oscar Eckenstein is the first recorded boulderer - at Pen Y Pass in North Wales, in the 1880s and 1890s. Some cliff dwelling peoples - the Anasazi in the U.S. southwest, the monks on various isolated places, inhabitants of Mali - were doing amazing things on rock long before we decided to make it a game with silly rules.

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Post by Brendan » Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:49 am

Anders, thanks for offering some useful insight into this topic. do you have any other long lost interesting info you'd like to share?

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