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Onsite has nothing at all to do with pre-placed gear in that definition which Gary wrote WRONG!!!!! My definition: "Climbing the route from the ground up, first time, with no assistance, without falling, until you reach the top." I would classify preplaced draws a s assistance, would you not. If no...

OK :) Onsite: "Climbing the route from the ground up, first time, with no assistance, without falling, until you reach the top." Two climbers both try to onsite a route. Climber one has never heard of the route gets on it only knowing the grade, puts the draws up and sends it, without falling and th...

The reason you didn't give us a definition is because there is no clear definition. If you disagree post the definition. You can't define a redpoint because it's a lot like defining what a 5.10a no body really knows it's all subjective Definition: (Subjective) taking place within the mind and modifi...

Thanks Pete, you stole my thunder :( to add to the gray list is: guide book description Guide book route maps Guide books that show where clips and crux's are people yelling beta tick marks on the rock photo's in climbing magazines showing the crux. the list goes on and on and on. but seriously I st...

If I understand you correctly. You are saying there is a clear cut definition for Redpointing, Onsighting, and Flashing. I hope thats what you're saying because it will be very fun to respond to that post. So go a head, have a shot at it. Keep in mind your comments above... but especially for the pu...

keeping in mind the following statement: "I don't, nor should you, care in anyway if someone flashs or onsights a route if there definition of a flash or an onsight differ from your own. I have the luxury of climbing for me, not anyone else." That being said, if I climb up a route and then come down...

Thanks for helping Rich

I'm not offended :) like I said, i love the stick clip argument. It's a fun one. I personally don't care, use it if you want, don't if you think it's cheating. I am aware I'm short :( but I don't care!!!! Is 5'7" really that short. But back to the issue at hand…. I much prefer when topics don't go d...

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Brendan wrote:stick clips are for short people... hence gary's need for one

Probably the most uneducated response possible.

PS. I haven't used a stick clip in about 3 years

I love this topic :) The idea that it's uncool to want to pre-clip the first bolt of a route that you've decided to work it ridiculous. If I'm trying to work the start of a route that has a death landing, like so many do, and a high or awkward first clip then I'm probably going to use a stick clip. ...

Murrin Park Find it on the Squamish Climbing Map (Click Here) Topos: The Murrin Park Topo (Click Here) Topo Description: Please note all topos are provided by and based on information from climbers and first hand observations. Please verify route lengths, bolts and descriptions on your own. Squamis...

NO!!!

There is nothing unethical about it.

Chek Canyon Find it on the Squamish Climbing Map (Click Here) Topos: Chek Area Topo (Click Here) Topo Description: Please note all topos are provided by and based on information from climbers and first hand observations. Please verify route lengths, bolts and descriptions on your own. SquamishClimb...

Clint Eastwood Crag Find it on the Squamish Climbing Map (Click Here) Topos: Clint Eastwood Crag Topo (Click Here) Topo Description: Please note all topos are provided by and based on information from climbers and first hand observations. Please verify route lengths, bolts and descriptions on your ...