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Adding iron to the route, and then saying "well if you want, climb it with natural gear" is a problematic argument-- we all know that the experience is profoundly changed by the presence of bolts. true. it's hard to come up with a solution that will allow the route to see enough traffic AND satisfy...

plus those 'loud' individuals can't climb the route in its overgrown state anyways, and those 'loud' individuals can place the o/w gear if they have it. nobody is forcing them to clip the bolts. good points meingh

Anders Ourom wrote: The bolts on Pipeline were placed for a belay - ropes weren't long enough in those days to do it as one pitch.

anybody know why

Optimally-Primed wrote:-- Perry's Layback
-- the 10a offwidth on Borderline
...
-- Tantalus Wall (p5)

are bolted

ya, you have a good idea. given that nobody climbs the route in the state that it's in, why not make it more appealing and available to be enjoyed by more people. go for it. also, offwidths are $$$ to protect. with the option to clip bolts, climbers who can't afford big bros and large cams can still...

given you have beckey's approval (which seems like the accepted way of going about it) my thoughts kinda evolved like this: -generally (from overhanging sport to slab climbing), if an FAist has put up a route in a style NOT consistent with the style of the area, there shouldn't be a problem with the...

there will always be another grade... never sacrifice beer

also, as one of my hobbies, i like to discuss el nino on squamishclimbing.com ?

cool. too bad it doesn't extend beyond climbing and rock and ice and include urban climber, gripped, alpinist...

i prefer to set up a home wall if i can too (holds sitting in bucket in storage) but renting an apartment won't help get that done this winter

i'll climb indoors now that i'm back living in van. obviously prefer to be outside, but indoor climbing'll be better than no climbing. not sure if i'll get a membership yet or just wander back and forth between the edge, cliffhanger van, & ubc on weeknights, maybe cc or flashpoint on weekends. i ten...

recon for new boulder fields
clean new lines
weekend road trip to smith, skaha
sit in coffee shop and wait for rain to stop, roads to dry
books/mags/vids about climbing


it never ends...

do they stretch?

just bought a pair. one friend says they don't, and one friend says i should've got a half to full size smaller.

i sized them to fit and a slight stretch/softening would be ok, but will they stretch a half to a full size?

rocks on mars

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